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Shane
07-26-2009, 04:54 AM
So I finally finished the install of my maftpro today, and in the end I've got one outstanding issue. When idling the car the engine revs up and down between 700 - 1200 and generally runs poorly.


Key On Engine Running
RPM 0 600-1250
MP 88.3 41@800RPM
DC -2.9 -1.90
AFL 1 60
AFI 0 0
VE 72.0 56
Cel 0 -33
F1 0 0
F0 30 38
UT 0.0 0.0
TPS 0.39 0.39
BD 0.0 0.0
MT 92.9 87.3
02 0.19 0.17
FE 0.0 0.0
ASC 0 0.0
CF 0.0 0.0
TAF -- --
Spk 16.0 16.0
BA 87.5 87.5
BP 0.1 -6.7
TM 0.0 0.0
Rs 0 0
MC 0 0
Vo1 4.99 4.99
Vo2 3.99 3.99
Cnt 0 0

SCANMASTER READINGS
02 - 140 -144
AF - 01 - 02
LB - 30
BAT - 13.6
INT - 128
BLM - 128
MPH - 0
CLT - 167
ATS - 71
RPM - 775
TPS - .38
IAC - 53
CC - 0
PL - 3.2
SP - 25.0


That's a listing of all the sensors of note. Let me know if you see anything out of whack. I'm a little concerned that the atm sensor is reading .883 bar. I live in Chicago, not Denver. Should I be concerned about that?

Here's all the settings:


PT Tracking
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Idle TPS 0.38
Idle RPM 800
Idle A/F 14.7
Cruise TPS 0.06
Cruise RPM 2432
Cruise Load 91.0
Cruise A/F 14.7
Lean Load 84.5
Lean Delay 10.0
Lean A/F 16.0
Gain 15.0
Enable Dly 95
ETPS 4800
ETPS 166.4

Aux Spk
------------------------
xxxx RPM 17.0

WOT Spk
------------------------
xxxx RPM 17.0

Tune Response
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TPS Enrich 0.50
TPS Decay 0.80
TB Size 7
TPS MAPmax 104.0
MAP Enrich 0.40
BST Enrich 0.10
MAP TPSmin 0.40
MAP RPMmin 2560
MAFlim TPS 0.00
MAF Limit 0.0
MAF/Krpm 0.0
Lim Min RPM 0
Lim Time 0

Tune Low Load
------------------------
xxxx RPM 0

Tune Mid Load
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xxxx RPM 0

Tune Hi Load
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xxxx RPM 0

Aux Trig
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xxxx RPM 0

Air Temp
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xx F 0

System Setup
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Main Scale 0
V-Out 1 Max 2.50
V-Out 2 Max 4.00
Afterstart 0.0
Lo Load pt 36.4
Mi Load pt 100.1
Hi Load pt 143.0
F Out Max 0
Tm Base 0
Tm Correct 1.27
Af TmDelay 0.0
FE Smooth 30
Use VE Table 1
Spk Base 17.0

Config Select
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Vehi Sel Mode 0
# of Cyl 6
Displacement 3.8
Airfl Mde: Spd Density
MAP Source GM 3-Bar
Load Source Use MAP
Baro Mode Read @ Key On
F-Out Mode GN Extreme / Pro
V-Out1 Mode Spark Control
V-Out2 Mode Set Max
AFR Source None
F-In Mode None
Aux 1 Mode +V to Trig
Flow Err Mode SD /Map


The really odd thing is that when I set Main Scale to +50 the car idles GREAT. But +50 just seems way too high for comfort. Any help would be appreciated. Point me in the right dirrection please.

Rick87gn
07-26-2009, 02:05 PM
Looks like the map sensor is a little off. Should be 98-100 key on engine off.

Do you have a wideband o2 sensor? Whats afr's saying?

(edit) I see you don't have a wideband.

Shane
07-26-2009, 02:11 PM
No WB02, just the NB. When running without the Main Scale set to +50 the NB02 reads 120 or so and doesn't move more than +/- 8 which is what concerns me. When I set it to +50 it runs great....

I'll probably be ordering a WB02 in a few weeks. This is turning into the never ending install.

Not sure what to think about that low MAP sensor reading. Like I said, we're only about 500 feet above sea level here, it should read about 100 :confused:

Rick87gn
07-26-2009, 03:48 PM
There were some bad map sensors floating around. I have one sitting here too. Where did you get yours from?

Don't let the mainscale number get to you. Put it where it runs OK then let it get into closed loop. Once in closed loop, see what the blm's are doing. You should be able to get it to run decent even with the low map sensor reading.

Ultimately, look into another map sensor.

Shane
07-26-2009, 07:16 PM
I ordered the MAP sensor from Mike when I got the maftpro. I hope it isn't bad. I'm gonna double check the connections, just to be sure.

Good to hear about the mainscale. I'm still finding my way around this device, so I just wanted to be certain that it was alright set that high. Thanks for the reassurance.

Rick87gn
07-28-2009, 02:32 AM
The map sensor running low will throw off the fueling. Thats why I say don't worrie about the high mainscale # so much. After you get a new map sensor, I'm thinking the tuning will change and should help bring the number down.

What version is in your tpro? It flashes on the display when you power it up.